1981 Jan - Nisargadatta
January 7, 1981
Questioner: Every time something happens now, instead of getting involved in it, I am seeing that everything is that "I Amness".
I am experiencing that.
Maharaj: Witnessing takes place, there is nothing to be done. It is total freedom for one who does not identify with the body.
Q: Everything is happening on its own and I have no concern with it.
M: If that is so, it means that you have understood everything and there is no need for you to linger here any longer.
Questioner [Another person]: It is different for me. I have to make an effort not to get involved in thoughts when I meditate.
M: It is the nature of the life force to express itself through thoughts and words, so they will keep on coming. If you have to make an effort in the beginning not to get involved, make that effort until it becomes effortless.
Q: Does the jnani have a mind and thoughts also?
M: Although thoughts come and go, the jnani is not concerned. Thoughts will come in consciousness; witnessing also takes place in consciousness.
You must have the conviction that you
are consciousness
Thereafter there is nothing for you to do; leave it to the consciousness to do what
is to be done.
Whatever happens, happens spontaneously.
Q: Where is the seat of consciousness?
M: In every particle of the juice of the body. In the scriptural books it is normally given that there are various chakras. Those are available if you want to locate them like that, but according to me, it is throughout the body.
Q: What is the difference between the body and consciousness?
M: What is the difference between sugar and sweetness? The sweetness is there in the sugar cane juice.
In the body the sweetness is the knowledge you are, the consciousness. This knowingness is due to what?
What is the prerequisite for consciousness?
Q: Is it the body?
M: The body is necessary to sustain consciousness; for the body to be, food is necessary, is it not?
Q: Yes.
M: If the body does not remain, consciousness will not remain. In the absence of body and consciousness,
what are you?
Q: I don't know.
M: Now you want to get some benefit, some advantage, for yourself.
To whom is the benefit?
Q: Consciousness.
M: If you are not the body or the consciousness, then what are you?
When you realize the Self- knowledge, then the self is released, liberated.
Q: Then what?
M: Then you know, definitely, who you are. That by which you know, you know that, also.
Q: Is that liberation?
M: Liberation means what?
It is no more there.
[Flicking his cigarette lighter on and off] This cigarette lighter is the body; the consciousness is the flame. Now it isn't there anymore; it is liberated.
Where is the need to label it in the absence of consciousness?
✅ Consciousness and the Absolute
The final talks of
Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
Edited by Jean Dunn
Questioner: Every time something happens now, instead of getting involved in it, I am seeing that everything is that "I Amness".
I am experiencing that.
Maharaj: Witnessing takes place, there is nothing to be done. It is total freedom for one who does not identify with the body.
Q: Everything is happening on its own and I have no concern with it.
M: If that is so, it means that you have understood everything and there is no need for you to linger here any longer.
Questioner [Another person]: It is different for me. I have to make an effort not to get involved in thoughts when I meditate.
M: It is the nature of the life force to express itself through thoughts and words, so they will keep on coming. If you have to make an effort in the beginning not to get involved, make that effort until it becomes effortless.
Q: Does the jnani have a mind and thoughts also?
M: Although thoughts come and go, the jnani is not concerned. Thoughts will come in consciousness; witnessing also takes place in consciousness.
You must have the conviction that you
are consciousness
Thereafter there is nothing for you to do; leave it to the consciousness to do what
is to be done.
Whatever happens, happens spontaneously.
Q: Where is the seat of consciousness?
M: In every particle of the juice of the body. In the scriptural books it is normally given that there are various chakras. Those are available if you want to locate them like that, but according to me, it is throughout the body.
Q: What is the difference between the body and consciousness?
M: What is the difference between sugar and sweetness? The sweetness is there in the sugar cane juice.
In the body the sweetness is the knowledge you are, the consciousness. This knowingness is due to what?
What is the prerequisite for consciousness?
Q: Is it the body?
M: The body is necessary to sustain consciousness; for the body to be, food is necessary, is it not?
Q: Yes.
M: If the body does not remain, consciousness will not remain. In the absence of body and consciousness,
what are you?
Q: I don't know.
M: Now you want to get some benefit, some advantage, for yourself.
To whom is the benefit?
Q: Consciousness.
M: If you are not the body or the consciousness, then what are you?
When you realize the Self- knowledge, then the self is released, liberated.
Q: Then what?
M: Then you know, definitely, who you are. That by which you know, you know that, also.
Q: Is that liberation?
M: Liberation means what?
It is no more there.
[Flicking his cigarette lighter on and off] This cigarette lighter is the body; the consciousness is the flame. Now it isn't there anymore; it is liberated.
Where is the need to label it in the absence of consciousness?
✅ Consciousness and the Absolute
The final talks of
Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
Edited by Jean Dunn
Labels: Ramana Kendram
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